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A Follow-up to Database Professionals: An Enterprise Requirement

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Published Friday, July 13, 2007 10:07 PM by andyleonard

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Chris Harmon said:

As a software programmer, I agree - DBAs should be part of the process. I've had enough years without them though, and find it sometimes hard to let them do their side without butting in.

But I've also seen DBAs that are quite a hindrance to the development - making interaction with them extremely time-consuming and getting them to make changes all but impossible (I believe their team culture was led by someone who had a very specific views about the programming teams...).

It has seemed to be a challenge for management to sign-off but also teams to really get the DBA involved when you have such disparity on what is viewed as their effectiveness. However, this is just as much an issue with business analysts and programmers :) I find it hard to believe that we will never see any more Programmer/DBA job postings or programming teams that never have DBAs.

July 16, 2007 8:13 AM

Andy Leonard said:

Chris, I've also worked with difficult DBAs. I don't like working under those conditions either. All I can really do about it - other than blog to the masses at - is point out a couple things:

1) The total-control nature of some environments necessitates this behavior in some environments, but it's no fun for anyone.

2) Things are more fun when folks are nice.

:{> Andy

July 16, 2007 12:34 PM

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